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“Carbon is not simply Carbon!” Recently it has become evident that the market has increasingly been flooded with suppliers boasting of the apparent genuine carbon parts they have on sale. However, at a second glance, these parts appear rather inferior, often consisting only partially of carbon parts and originating predominantly from Asian production sites. It is sometimes difficult for the customer to tell the difference from images between genuine carbon parts and the many mixed-fabric parts containing a high proportion of fiberglass and resin. To be able to more accurately ascertain the quality of a carbon part, here is some essential background information: The quality of a carbon component is essentially defined during its production and (to a somewhat lesser extent) by the surface coating, which determines durability and quality. Production process Autoclaves: This is the classic procedure, developed over decades for hi-tech use, from Formula 1 to Moto GP, right up to space travel. The most modern practice here is the use of so-called “Prepreg” mats as a starting point for high-quality carbon parts. These pre-impregnated mats must be cold-stored so that they can be processed more effectively. Because the mats are produced by machine, their proportion of binding agent is consistently low. This results in excellent dimensional conformance, as well as predetermined, clearly defined stability, linked with lower component weight. In addition, the use of Prepreg Carbon fibre mats is better for humans and the environment, because open resin use is not required. With the high pressure ratios and temperatures achieved in the autoclave, the moulds for the carbon components must be made from resistant materials. To guarantee consistent quality, aluminium is used. These aluminium moulds are milled using the latest CNC milling techniques from solid metal sections. For many years this procedure has been used by ICP Ilmberger Carbon Parts and is constantly being developed for our uses. As you may be able to glean from this description, this entire procedure is not cheap. Nevertheless, the process distinguishes us decisively from nearly all our competitors. And you as a customer always have the certainty you will receive only the very best. Wet Laminate: In the wet laminate procedure, the individual mats are saturated with resin, inserted into moulds and placed in the oven. The oven is used to harden the mats in this procedure. Procedures such as vacuum, pressure and high temperatures are not used here as this leads to a softening of installed components, for example, in strong sunlight. This technology is used in model construction for individual part processing, during which large numbers of pieces are seldom processed and so a favourable alternative to plastic or fibreglass must be found. This traditional laminate production technology can provide proper visual results when properly processed but without achieving the high level of autoclave part stiffness and stability necessary today. In addition, the subsequent varnishing of wet laminate components is not an easy task. Compression Technology: Compression technology can, in principle, be classified like wet laminate production, in which the fabric is compressed and stamped into shape in a mould. Similarly too, compression technology works at a very low temperature, with the disadvantages being nearly identical to wet laminate production. Surface Clear Plastic Power Coating: This is technically probably the most difficult process, but especially for vehicle surfaces, powder coating with varnish is the best procedure. The plastic powder coating used by ICP Ilmberger Carbon for their carbon components is processed in a similar way to standard powder coatings, in that the part to be coated, as well as the varnish powder, is electro-statically charged. The powder is administered to the component using an air pressure gun on the component and is then burned on in a special, precision temperature-heated cabin. Powder coating is a very ecologically friendly varnishing process. Air pressure is used as “a solvent”, meaning that there is no environmental pollution. The waste associated with the process can be decontaminated as an energy utilisation waste product and disposed of at a reasonable price. There is no hazardous by-product. Flaking on damaged surfaces is a feature of varnishing that does not occur with powder coating. It is substantially more resistant to stone impact and similar mechanical damage. The powder coating is an excellent UV protection for the carbon fibres it protects, and it also stops carbon components from fading. ICP Ilmberger Carbon has successfully used this procedure for over 10 years. In order to confirm their exceptionally high level of quality, ICP Ilmberger Carbon regularly checks their processes with the German TÜV Süd safety standards authority, and they always regularly receive the corresponding stamp of quality approval. This in turn confirms that ICP Ilmberger Carbon offers this security to every customer that they will receive the highest quality product possible. Clear Spray Painting and other Surfaces: Many suppliers classically cover components only with sprayed varnish. Unfortunately, over the years, certain varnishes can “yellow”, an unsightly feature which forms due to lack of sufficient UV protection. Another quality risk for the customer is the infamous “fading” of the carbon components, due again to UV rays. This has the effect of reducing the carbon’s own superb shine down to an unpleasant pale grey. Increasingly, there are also suppliers who leave their surfaces completely untreated, referring to this feature as “matted”, or an “overlayer”. The customer can be sure in these cases that, over time, environmental factors like humidity, UV radiation or even motorcycle cleaner and petrol will strongly affect these components. Covering the parts with varnish is, technically seen, just a cheap solution. Conclusion: In general, ICP Ilmberger Carbon advises the customer to ask questions and, in case of doubt, enquire precisely about the processing of the component and the surface refining procedures, and if possible, to get something in writing confirming these findings. A serious manufacturer will certainly not leave a customer in the dark regarding this matter. Those enterprises who offer certified quality will be only too pleased to provide you with sound written answers regarding technical questions. ICP Ilmberger Carbon sees this as a natural part of their complete customer service. Test us….

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Ilmberger Carbon quality?

Quite simple: superb. Ilmberger carbon parts are 100% carbon and offer great fit and finish. You wouldn't want to install inferior products on your expensive bike, and Ilmberger offers quality that matches your bike. Buying Ilmberger carbon parts is a solid investment in your bike, both aesthetically as well as technically.

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Carbon is carbon, right?

No! Most definitely not. Perfection is in the details, and that's where Ilmberger comes in. You won't find dark edges, wet lay-up carbon or inferior finish in Ilmberger. Cheap carbon is inferior carbon, as it's the attention to detail that makes a great piece of carbon. In Ilmberger carbon you'll find straight weaves, following the shape of the product perfectly, and very thin seams where two sheets meet.

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What is pre-preg carbon?

Autoclaves pre-preg procedure: the classic procedure, developed over decades for hi-tech use, from Formula 1 to Moto GP, right up to space travel. The most modern practice here is the use of so-called “Prepreg” mats as a starting point for high-quality carbon parts. These pre-impregnated mats must be cold-stored so that they can be processed more effectively. Because the mats are produced by machine, their proportion of binding agent is consistently low. This results in excellent dimensional conformance, as well as predetermined, clearly defined stability, linked with lower component weight. In addition, the use of Prepreg Carbon fibre mats is better for humans and the environment, because open resin use is not required. With the high pressure ratios and temperatures achieved in the autoclave, the moulds for the carbon components must be made from resistant materials. To guarantee consistent quality, aluminium is used. These aluminium moulds are milled using the latest CNC milling techniques from solid metal sections. For many years this procedure has been used by ICP Ilmberger Carbon Parts and is constantly being developed for our uses. As you may be able to glean from this description, this entire procedure is not cheap. Nevertheless, the process distinguishes us decisively from nearly all our competitors. And you as a customer always have the certainty you will receive only the very best.

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Are Ilmberger carbon parts supplied painted with colour?

All Ilmberger carbon parts come in either matt or glossy carbon, depending on the part. These coloured parts are not on the parts sold. The colours shown on the demo bikes are purely for that bike, Ilmberger builds a demo for each bike they introduce new carbon for.

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The Ilmberger carbon part I want is sold in matt but I want it glossy, is that possible?

Yes, all parts can be bought in matt or glossy, painting a glossy part matt or the other way around adds 10% to the price. Just email us your order and we'll get it done. If you have any questions, please let us know.

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